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Saints & Theologians On The End Times - Shedding Light On The Current Catholic Crisis
vaticancatholic.com | 18 mars 2025
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Fr. Willem Hessels van Est = Estius, quoted in Haydock?

[Brother Dimond confirmed less than a minute later]

3:59 I would actually dispute the idea of Bernard a Piconio here.

The temporal rule of the Roman Empire ended:

• 1453 in Constantinople
• 1648 in England, Scotland and Ireland
• 1830 in France
• 1870 in Italy, possibly also in Germany
• 1917 in Russia
• 1918 in Austria, possibly also in Germany.

Remember, the Medieval Kingdom of Germany (recalled by one Adso in the context) has as most direct heir Austria. Adso apparently opined that Constantinopel was irrelevant since he counted France and Germany as the principal kingdoms manifesting the Christian Roman Empire.

[tried to add:]

Au début des années 950, la reine Gerberge, prise d'une peur eschatologique, prend soin de consulter Adson de Montier-en-Der, auteur du traité De ortu et tempore Antichristi (De la naissance de l'époque de l'Antéchrist). Ce dernier rassure Gerberge en lui affirmant que l'arrivée de l'Antéchrist n'aura pas lieu avant la fin des royaumes de Francie et de Germanie, les deux « imperia » fondamentaux de l'Univers dit-il. Le roi des Francs peut donc continuer à régner sans crainte, le Ciel porte sa légitimité.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_IV_d%27Outremer

4:20 Can you trace what text of St. Thomas he is quoting?

W a i t:

Deinde cum dicit quoniam nisi venerit discessio, etc., astruit veritatem; et primo ostendit quae ventura sunt ad Antichristi adventum. Et sunt duo, quorum unum praecedit adventum Antichristi; aliud est ipse adventus eius. Primum est discessio, quod multipliciter exponitur in Glossa. Et primo a fide, quia futurum erat, ut fides a toto mundo reciperetur. Matth. XXIV, 14: et praedicabitur hoc Evangelium regni in universo orbe. Istud ergo praecedit quod secundum Augustinum nondum est impletum, et post multi discedent a fide, et cetera. I Tim. IV, 1: in novissimis temporibus discedent quidam a fide, et cetera. Matth. XXIV, 12: refrigescet charitas multorum. Vel discessio a Romano imperio, cui totus mundus erat subditus. Dicit autem Augustinus, quod hoc figuratur Dan. II, 31 in statua, ubi nominantur quatuor regna; et post illa adventus Christi, et quod hoc erat conveniens signum, quia Romanum imperium firmatum fuit ad hoc, quod sub eius potestate praedicaretur fides per totum mundum. Sed quomodo est hoc, quia iamdiu gentes recesserunt a Romano imperio, et tamen necdum venit Antichristus? Dicendum est, quod nondum cessavit, sed est commutatum de temporali in spirituale, ut dicit Leo Papa in sermone de apostolis. Et ideo dicendum est, quod discessio a Romano imperio debet intelligi, non solum a temporali, sed a spirituali, scilicet a fide Catholica Romanae Ecclesiae. Est autem hoc conveniens signum, quod sicut Christus venit quando Romanum imperium omnibus dominabatur, ita e converso signum Antichristi est discessio ab eo.

Note, St. Thomas does not totally dismiss the temporal rule, he says:

discessio a Romano imperio debet intelligi, non solum a temporali, sed a spirituali

My view about Roman Empire ending in WW-I is therefore not simply false, only the less important part.

5:00 Obviously, the kingdoms now called Protestant defected from the faith in the era best described as the Deformation (though some misspell that with an R).

5:42 While the defection from the Catholic faith is undoubted and implied in end times prophecy of the Apocalypse, it is not impossible that St. Thomas and Bernard de Piconio were wrong about history, as also Bossuet in his universal history when counting Charlemagne as a new thing after Rome.

I e, the temporal rule was not yet overthrown. Key note, Clovis by becoming a Patricius with naming from Constantinople actually became a Roman large regional ruler, and made Charlemagne eligible to be a Roman Emperor, that was also the thought of Pope St. Leo III (feast day 12 June) who crowned Charlemagne. Equally some view of continuing Roman Empire was that of the Popes who conferred the dignity of Constantinopolitan Emperor on Crusaders, starting with Innocent III recognising Baldwin as Emperor.

6:14 It may be added, the Senatorial (non-Caesarian) Roman Empire was very probably the Fourth Beast, and when Antiochus IV Epiphanes committed sacrilege, he was a vassal of the Senate.

Decemviri were a recurrent feature of Rome, not just the one or two occasions of "legibus faciundis" and can aptly be described as "ten kings" ...

Two men are famously called Calvinus. The former of them even more famously called Sextus, founder of Aquae Sextiae or Aix in Provence ... which could give a hint about the other famous Calvinus from more recent history.

Rebellion against kingship and putting in place Senate like oligarchies has been a mark of the political part of the defection.

14:26 In German, KN pronounces both letters, as English also formerly did (Chaucer pronounced "knight" pretty close to how Germans pronounce "Knecht"). An A is never pronounced as in "gate" unless there are two dots above it, which there aren't.

14:52 "extremely few"

Noting that Conclavists are fewer than the overall Sedevacantist movement ... (if CMRI, SSPV et c. are included).