Wednesday, February 12, 2020

To Heiser on Stele of Naram-Sin

To Heiser on Stele of Naram-Sin · To Heiser on Egyptian Dinosaurs · Responding to Heiser's Presentation on Angelology

A bit loosely related to the video, last one, but first and second more closely:

The Victory Stele of Naram-Sin - What It Really Says
FringePop321 | 2.V.2018

2200 BC.

You mean carbon dated 2200 BC, I presume?

Bc, actual 1700 BC sth (when Joseph's Pharao died) is carbon dated 2600 or pehaps even rawdates 2800 BC. Joseph is remembered as Imhotep, so Joseph's Pharao was Djoser.

This means Naram-Sin's stele is from an actual date, either from Soujourn in Egypt or (less probably, if the dating of the walls of Jericho is more relevant than the carbon dates of relevant abandonment of Jericho) from when Joshua conquered the Holy Land.

5:55 "The dates of both of these kings are known because of King Lists ..."

If you consider the chronology of pagan king lists as more reliable than the chronology of the Bible, you have a problem, Sir.

With Egyptian King lists, you have a discrepancies amounting to major discrepancy between Turin and Abydos, and you also have discrepancies between these and Manetho.

With Sumerian King lists, it is well known that certain rulers have inflated times, in some cases over 100 000 years. With Egyptian ones, this has of late been somewhat forgotten, but as far as I recall pre-dynastic from a few years ago, you have Scorpion so and so ruling longer than pre-Flood Patriarchs even lived. Hence the taunt of Origen and St. Augustin of inflating chronology in "lying histories".

8:56 Just to mention it, my own theory that Nimrod was trying to build a rocket, and his successors succeeded at Cape Canaveral and Bajkonur is not indebted to Zechariah Sitchins' reading of this stele.

It IS indebted to visual similarity of Göbekli Tepe to a rocket launch field, and it IS indebted to the fact, no tower, ziggurat or skyscraper of any kind was found in Göbekli Tepe.

AND the ziggurat of Naram Sin is NOT the Tower of Babel, since we can read inscriptions on it or about it which are NOT Hebrew.

Conversely, the phrasing of Genesis 11:4 does suggest a rocket to us who know such, and the carbon date of Göbekli Tepe is sufficiently close upon Younger Dryas when seas were rising while Noah was dying, that it would have made sense for someone not trusting the rain bow promise to build some escape route from a floodable earth.

Plus, theology : if God had struck down a mere tower in the modern and usual sense of the word, why is He allowing rockets?

Well, He said man would not leave the project unfinished, didn't He?

But Cape Canaveral made it safer than a bungled rocket launch from Göbekli Tepe would have been.

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