Wednesday, December 25, 2024

Catholicism and Christmas (and Why Puritans Hate Them)


Christmas Banned for Being Too Catholic? | FORWARD BOLDLY
Christine Niles | Christmas Eve, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04jh5do4snA


1) Merry Christmas!
2) Did you know that learning about English and Swedish Reformation in High School was what, in great part, made me convert?

4:49 Speaking of Catholic martyrs, you have heard about Fr. George Haydock, whose great-great-great-nephew some ten generations removed, Fr. George Leo Haydock made the "Catholic Scofield Bible" about a century before Scofield made his own "Protestant Haydock Bible" ...

Just to quiz you a bit, the following passage about Genesis 3 as a whole, is it Haydock or Scofield?

Concerning the transactions of these early times, parents would no doubt be careful to instruct their children, by word of mouth, before any of the Scriptures were written; and Moses might derive much information from the same source, as a very few persons formed the chain of tradition, when they lived so many hundred years. Adam would converse with Mathusalem, who knew Sem, as the latter lived in the days of Abram. Isaac, Joseph, and Amram, the father of Moses, were contemporaries: so that seven persons might keep up the memory of things which had happened 2500 years before. But to entitle these accounts to absolute authority, the inspiration of God intervenes; and thus we are convinced, that no word of sacred writers can be questioned.


[Solution, see: Quote: Haydock or Scofield?]

8:10 I think shutting down ale houses is a later addition to the story.

As Chesterton noted, Cromwell was of a brewer family. I think he was even a brewer himself, before becoming a Devil's Crusader.

Protestants tended to be more liberal about alcohol up to the 19th C. when the fruits of what was actually the Reformation (sorry, misspelled it R for D) became untenable.

In Sweden, the expenses for beer for the royal guard in Stockholm castle went up at the Deformation, because Lent was abolished.

Before I believe you about Cromwell shutting down ale houses, I'd want a good source. Like better than an off the cuff remark at a lecture, even in Oxford, even by a well respected professor.

9:23 Thank you for the reminder of the dignity of the Feast. The day after tomorrow cannot actually be referred to as Friday, and especially has no Friday abstinence, since Third Day of Christmas is among the first four days of Christmas.

It's also my patronage, partly, for Hans (along with June 24, Aug 29, I'm for both the Johns).

14:34 Speaking of which, those who note I'm not going to Church in Paris, whatever you may think of Pope Michael II, he's not Cromwell, and as no parish celebrates in communion with him and he hasn't given a specific dispensation on where to go in absence of this, I am "staying at home" for that reason.

Nothing to do with Protestantism whatsoever.

15:30 And it's really unfortunate 15:32 that modern architecture 15:33 and many Catholics have followed the Protestant tradition 15:36 of stripping, of the altars, of stripping of the walls 15:40 and bringing everything down. 15:41 Just just spare, modernist and plain. 15:45 It's really not supposed to be that way.


Sure the perpetrators are really Catholics?

17:12 One of the ravages of the Swedish Deformation was, Gustav Wasa reduced public holidays to the first four days each of Christmas, Easter, Pentecost.

Gustav III, of the Endarkenment, further reduced them to First and Second Day of each.

So, tomorrow, St. Stephen, is a public holiday in Sweden, and so are Easter Monday and Pentecost Monday.

When Swedes generally admire those two guys, can you guess why I'd hate going back to Sweden?

19:19 Chesterton suggested England should have a feast of Thanksgiving for the Pilgrim Fathers leaving the British Isles (actually, they had been in the Netherlands for some time, and had all the religious freedom they wanted there, I've recently learnt).

Given the Christmas ban in Boston Massachusetts, I think there is something to be said for it.

David Davenport
@daviddavenport9350
I agree.....

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