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Why I Am Angry 😡
Blogging Theology | 21 Dec. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsIEpKhBR2I

My final words (at first hearing) were:

Here are three cases of attacks perpetrated by white non-Muslims.

Breivik, attacked young socialists at Utøÿa.

terrorist according to CNN and Encyclopedia Britannica

Christchurch attacker (Tarrant? yes!) on Mosque

terrorist according to Royal Commission, NZ security service, The Conversation

Stephan Balliet, shot two and injured two in a synagogue

far right terror attack according to Minister of Justice Christine Lamprecht (as reported by BBC)

possibly not terrorist according to Judge Ursula Mertens (who still gave him lifetime), here are words that are probably pertinent to your complaint:

Balliet, who was not a member of an organised neo-Nazi terrorist cell but had been radicalised in online forums, said he had felt “superseded” by the hundreds of thousands of refugees who entered Germany in the summer and autumn of 2015.

The Guardian

So, the criteria as of recent years seems to be:

• if someone belongs to a terrorist cell, it's terrorism
• if someone's radicalised into hatred leading to such deeds, on his own, it's not terrorism

This criterium seems to have been imposed after Utøya and Christchurch.

3:04 One could interpret the standard as this.

A terrorist attack is when the attacker is affiliated to an organisation considered as a terrorist organisation. Included, but ovbviously not limited, to when he in the last breath swears allegiance to x, y, z among the nec plus ultra authorities for terrorist Muslims.

I had seen him depicted as an Anti-Islamist yesterday, but not as an Islamophobe.

I thought this shrink had a very current view among the Muslims employed in Western administrations: "Islam is true, but needs application, maybe even re-interpretation, Islamists are stupid because they refuse to do that work" ...

So, if he was an ex-Muslim and Islamophobe, though I would like your sources, that changes this a bit.

I'm happy my only comment was "ein Psychiater drehte durch" ... basically "a shrink ran amuck" ...

4:14 I was really appalled at hearing the criteria a certain Lubavitcher Rabbi wanted before considering a Palestinian a peaceful one or a civilian.

He wanted him to lay down his gun.

So, according to Manis Friedmann, as long as the Palestinian hasn't laid down "his gun" he can be treated as a terrorist. What if he didn't own one in the first place? Well, then he couldn't lay down his gun, so ... this is what I told Manis Friedmann, he hasn't responded.

5:31 Not quite true.

When a Muslim stabbed a French police woman and got shot, given the facts that he had psychiatric background, as a patient, not a doctor, didn't claim allegiance to a recognised terrorist organisation, and hadn't apparently planned much, he was not claimed to be a terrorist, but to be a mental case.

But you claim the doctor had ideological motives to target the Christmas Market. Which ones?

By the way, "Christmas Market attack" in connotations actually carries one of terrorist attack.

On 19 December 2016, a truck was deliberately driven into the Berlin Christmas market, leaving 12 people dead and more than 70 victims. One of the victims was the truck's original driver, who was found shot dead in the truck. The perpetrator was a Tunisian national inspired by ISIL propaganda.

Berlin Christmas market terrorist attack of December 2016
https://www.eurojust.europa.eu/sites/default/files/2018-06/2016-12_Berlin-terrorist-attack.pdf

So, I think that one too was called a "lone attack" and it is not impossible that the now perpetrator was hoping to fan the flames of that memory, where the perpetrator was actually some sort of Muslim, even if not your own type obviously, and yes, I get it, you don't call that Tunisian a real Muslim.

5:31 bis, I actually tried to look up a few media to answer your view that media always call it "terrorist attack" when any non-white especially Muslim is involved.

I now hear* that the shrink used a way that was kept open for emergency purposes, so, the doctor would have had medical friends aware of that arrangement, or he couldn't have pulled it off. Unless you prefer saying he had supernatural help, either from God or Satan.

A L L other venues to the market were closed off.

He could obviously have been around the market in previous years.

Update:

I could not verify that the killer had totally ceased to be a Muslim, even if I think most Muslims would be stricter on counting such an estranged from their religion as apostate (whether they act on it or not).

But I did find that three men nearby had been cheering while the killing happened.**

My guess is, whether you count them as real Muslims or not, they would be of the Muslim community.

* Market attack suspect appears in court as anger grows over security
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c140vn5ne6ko

** Reference lost. Perhaps it was scrubbed from the internet, perhaps just demoted in search engines.

Whichever be the case, Taqqiyya is a possibility:

Ex-Muslims claim Germany Christmas market attacker isn't ex-Muslim, warn of bigger plot
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/ex-muslims-claim-germany-magdeburg-christmas-market-attack-saudi-atheist-warn-of-taqiyyah-conspiracy-2653579-2024-12-22