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Hans-Georg Lundahl

4:07 "because he's 19 and you're 15"?

In certain centuries, actually most up to present, that would not have been a problem.

Rome changed from age limit 14/12 to age limit 18/18 in 1870, when the Pope's troops got defeated by the evil troops of Sardinia (or perhaps the irregular redshirts of Garibaldi).

SheSkisS3s *

Hans-Georg Lundahl Actually it was ideal. The guy would have learned a trade and all the necessary skills to support a family. The girl would have reached child-bearing age (so 15 was often considered an old maid) and could look after her husband. People didn't live as long and died young more often, so they didn't have time to waste.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

15 was not considered an old maid if unmarried, in France "old maid" was after 25, in Russia after 30.

Lifespans more often involved death during childhood in the Middle Ages than later, but even in the Middle Ages, median lifespans of known people are about a decade lower than our own average ones in Western World.

Dante was not imagining things, when he equated 33 or 35 with "nel mezzo del cammin' di nostra vita".

SheSkisS3s

Oh I see we're talking different time periods. I was specifically thinking of Israel while under Roman rule. (Jim Bishop's The Day Christ Was Born- a great read)

Hans-Georg Lundahl

Israel while under Roman rule ... I don't think we have very reliable informations on lifespans back then, since fewer persons were known then and are still known to us whom we could make median or average lifespans from.

Middle Ages is better documented than most of Antiquity, from Renaissance on documentation is better still and from 18th C most known persons have known lifespans.

However, the age limits back then remained those of Christians through most of 2000 years and most of the Christian free world.

SheSkisS3s

As a Christian, raised in a Christian community, within western culture (Which is built on a Judeo-Roman foundation), I'd say it's a perfectly fine standard.

There is an infallible record of 5,050 years in the Bible (Creation- St. John's revelations c.50AD)

But outside of that, I really don't know much.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

I'd say St John's Revelation was in 90 AD, under Domitian's tyranny.

And Creation was in 5199 BC.

Reading some history of the Church, as in Late Antiquity (drawing the line for "late" in 33 AD) and Middle Ages would perhaps be an idea.

Btw, here is some reading I provide myself, with the help of wiki:

Φιλολoγικά/Philologica : Story of a Cardinal's Title with Pre-Industrial Demographics
http://filolohika.blogspot.com/2016/05/story-of-cardinals-title-with-pre.html

This is part 10 of a series on lifespans in pre-Industrial ages in Europe (I don't think there was a part about US yet).

It does not try to assess lifespans from very general statistics not too well accessible, but rather from lifespans of well known people. I made a similar series in French. Each part I tried to rule out age bias (except a nearly inevitable one of including only those who survived infancy and childhood mortality) by trying to make some other connection between those whose lives I studied.

I do think however some localities and families were dying much younger, like in forties, due to untreated diabetes.

SheSkisS3s

Hans-Georg Lundahl Cool. Thanks for the info. 👍🏻 Clearly you know your stuff

Hans-Georg Lundahl

You are welcome, and it starts becoming time to wish you

HAPPY EASTER!

SheSkisS3s

Hans-Georg Lundahl God bless yours also!

Hans-Georg Lundahl

Thank you!

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