Correct vs Apostatic View of Marriage (quora)

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& correct answer

If someone has been married in the Catholic Church, then divorced but hasn't annulled, can they remarry in the Maronite Church if the groom is Maronite?
https://www.quora.com/If-someone-has-been-married-in-the-Catholic-Church-then-divorced-but-hasnt-annulled-can-they-remarry-in-the-Maronite-Church-if-the-groom-is-Maronite

James Lacey

researcher and writer

Answered Thu

If someone has been married in the Catholic Church, then divorced but hasn't annulled, can they remarry in the Maronite Church if the groom is Maronite?

I actually grew up in a city with a Maronite Church, which is still a Catholic Church, but uses a somewhat different set of rituals and such.

So you still need to follow the Catholic rules.

[I upvoted this.]

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& eventually apostatic answer

If someone has been married in the Catholic Church, then divorced but hasn't annulled, can they remarry in the Maronite Church if the groom is Maronite?
https://www.quora.com/If-someone-has-been-married-in-the-Catholic-Church-then-divorced-but-hasnt-annulled-can-they-remarry-in-the-Maronite-Church-if-the-groom-is-Maronite/answer/Al-Lundy

Al Lundy

Husband, father, brother, son, community volunteer, "common sense isnt common"

Answered Thu

In order to keep both the bride and groom from entering into a grave state of sin, the bride would first need to petition for an anullment and have it granted.

Otherwise both bride and groom are committing adultery according to the faith which each profess.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

2h ago

Even if the Maronite groom was just the old bridegroom from before the divorce having changed rites?

Al Lundy

1h ago

We have a couple hurdles here to deal with in your situation. First, for a member of the Maronite Church to be married in the Roman Catholic Church they would first need the explicit permission of their Bishop in the Maronite Church.

The second hurdle has to do with a divorced couple remarrying each other.

If you have a broken chair and you set it aside in the garage for a while and then decide to use it again the chair is still broken. Before the chair can be expected to be used properly if first needs to be repaired.

When a couple divorces and then later decides to remarry what they sometimes forget is the Brokenness that caused the first divorce. Before the Catholic Church will allow them to enter into what could possibly be another broken marriage, the church will require a certain amount of therapy for both the individuals and the couple together. Once the church has the recommendation of the therapist that the brokenness that damaged the first marriage has been resolved the church will bless the marriage.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

just now

“When a couple divorces and then later decides to remarry what they sometimes forget is the Brokenness that caused the first divorce. Before the Catholic Church will allow them to enter into what could possibly be another broken marriage, the church will require a certain amount of therapy for both the individuals and the couple together. Once the church has the recommendation of the therapist that the brokenness that damaged the first marriage has been resolved the church will bless the marriage.”

I am sorry, but my comment was somewhat of a joke.

My point is, if they decide to remarry, a priest will tell them the marriage did not cease due to divorce and they can go back to living together immediately.

In cases when there was some doubt about original consent of one or both parties, there is a kind of marriage like ceremony in private known as sanatio in semi-radice (if one party’s original consent was doubtful) or in radice (if both parties’ were).

If you were not joking, you are representing an Apostate Church in which you are allowing Therapists to put asunder what God hath put together.

Where you are making a relation to a third party neither God nor children a pre-condition for resuming the relation with a spouse.

What caused the divorce was sin. The divorce itself was a sin. What needs to be done is repent. And get back to normal.

Not to demand some idolatrous tribute to therapists before that can be done.

Update

Al Lundy

13h ago

Not at all. The therapist has no bearing on the validity of the sacrament. Only the Church can determine that should an anullment be requested. Until that then the sacramental bond remains in force despite the legal dissolution of the marriage contract.

Your question suggested the couple wanted church recognition in their new marriage. But what the church wants is for the couple to have a strong marriage.

Investigating the issues which harmed the first marriage is an important step, and a caring pastor is going to include therapy in this process to help the couple on this path.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

Just now

I was joking about a situation where not only there has been no annulment, but the "new marriage" is actually the old one.

Obviously, of John and Jane Doe marry in Church, are not annulled, divorce, the Church should not require John and Jane Doe to ask a therapist before they can go back to married, just inform them that unlike for certain civil matters a new ceremony is not required.

Since the marriage is not a "new" marriage at all in such a case, the decision to reunite has removed THE harm of the first marriage which most concerns God or Church : the divorce, which was an illicit act.

As for the idea of a really new marriage, it is also apostatic to consider a therapist could help the Church declare the old marriage null (excluded by terms of question, remember) and then also help to guide into two "new marriages" = adulteries.