Tuesday, January 22, 2019

Reviewing Lizzie's Convert's Guide to Catholic Lingo

Convert's Guide to CATHOLIC LINGO!!!
LizziesAnswers | 14.I.2019

3:17 Gospel ... did you know that the Latin used in France in 790 for the reading was fairly close to the spoken language on its way from Latin to French, since the prounciation was not after Classic rules, that this changed in Tours diocese in 800, when Alcuin from York arrived, in England Latin had been taught as a foreign language since Anglo-Saxons arrived and even earlier only relatively few spoke Latin compared to elsewhere in the Empire, so, the Anglo-Saxon Latin knowledge was fairly Classical, and this coming to effect in Tours in 800 led to no one (nearly, except clergy following the courses of Alcuin) understood Latin AND then 813, only 13 years later, a Gospel paraphrase or explanation in the local language of the parish was required

4:39 sth - wouldn't it be better if communion in the hand was strictly forbidden, as it used to be up to Vatican II and a few years on?

Actually it is not quite a laughing matter, since stolen hosts have been used for sacrilege, both some committed on youtubes now taken down and some for black mass.

6:08 Back in Time to the Last Supper.

AT the Last Supper they were forward in time to Calvary, so you are (with a valid Mass) back in time to Calvary.

10:36 Actually, it used to be called Communion of the Saints.

You forgot one category of souls that Catholics on earth have communion with : those in Purgatory.

We usually pray for them, but they intercede on one point for us, namely, waking up in time. Since many of them are there because they "woke up" just in the nick of time to avoid Hell, they are collectively patrons saints of waking up in time.

Used to be = with Pope Michael still is, I suppose.

14:16 "the bishop was the priest"

I don't think that is true.

With house churches, you had one bishop heading all the priests in a city and several priests saying Mass in different houses same Sunday.

On week days they might more probably celebrate in the same place a their bishop, perhaps a catacomb.

I'll modify this, in real big cities the bishops arguably had priests under them, perhaps not in small towns (if there were Christians there).

14:43 Becoming deacon, priest, bishop is indeed sacrament of orders, but becoming monk or nun is joining an order, sth different, it is not a sacrament.

You usually enumerate first the five sacraments "all" or most with very few exceptions Catholics receive, then the two which are made in relation to others of the communion:

1) Baptism; 2) Confirmation; 3) Eucharist; 4) Confession; 5) Extreme Unction (other parts of last rites are 4 and 3, or with someone unbaptised, 1 and 3);
6) Orders or 7) Matrimony.

You may wonder why Eucharist is enumerated before Confession or Penance ... well, if you were baptised half an hour ago and confirmed quarter of an hour ago, you can probably receive the Eucharist without going to Confession first, as was often the case with adult converts from Paganism. Also, when babies were given Confirmation and Eucharist directly after Baptism, as was the case, no Confession was required.

Other reason, the first three are building up your spiritual life of grace, the next two are repairing it, when lost or damaged. The last two are preparing it by providing a) ministers for sacrament and liturgy of the word and b) ministers for a Catholic education of their own children.

15:17 RCIA - you taught me the acronym, in Sweden it is called "conversionsförberedelse" ...

I had quite a lot of RCIA, since starting twice over and that after quite a lot of other studies to convert. I decided at 16 after reading Umberto Eco's Name of the Rose, and I was received a few months before 20.

That was while Wojtyla was less directly schismatic than after election of Pope Michael and a few months before the consecration of four bishops by Lefebvre and Castro Mayer.

The priest who had done the last year of my "RCIA" and who was my confessor first year I practised was a Pole, ordained before the change in ordination rites, so a real priest, very conservative, mainly in sympathy with Monseigneur Lefebvre, but considered he was "exaggerating" by "disobeying" ... I sometimes observed he seemed to have a somewhat hard time obeying some things, especially when it came to understanding what he was supposed to obey.

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