Wednesday, February 7, 2024

Anglican Against YEC — He's Praising Ussher From SJG

Why do people believe the Earth is only 6000 years old?
The Caffeinated Bible | 13 Aug. 2022

Pronunciation guide to the Latin.

un-NAH-less / un-NAH-layce
VET ur iss TESS tuh MENN tee / VET ur iss TESS tuh MENN ty

ah PREE muh MOONN dee au REE ginay
day DOOCK tee.

2:48 No, not all of them around 4000 BC.

Julius Africanus had a Vetus Latina, which means he apparently had a LXX text for Genesis 5 and 11.

One without the second Cainan.

His calculation was then used as basis for the further work St. Jerome did to place Abraham in relation to Christ, and then adding Julius the African to that.

5200 BC.

George Syncellus came up with 5500 BC.

3:08 You don't have access to reliable geological or astronomical dating that reliably puts creation 13.8 billion years earlier.

4:07 To my mind, several Bible books were once work in progress over many generations, and I think Book of Jashar is simply what they were all referred to before they were finished.

A bit like Anglo-Saxon chronicle was not just that at the last entry, or the second last, but all from the very first entry.

5:13 It's totally in keeping with how the binding of Isaac is literally true about what Abraham did, when he was over 100 years old, and at the same time true allegorically about what God the Father and the Blessed Virgin Mary did on Calvary.

The traditional reading of the OT is never either or but both literal and allegorical.

6:11 If you do not assume the genealogies ar at least roughly speaking complete, and an unbroken record, how do you reconcile your assumption with Biblical inerrancy?

9:22 I have taken an approach that's somewhat similar about Sunday letters in the retroactive Gregorian calendar (our best approach to actual Solar year) what year of St. Jerome, Syncellus or Ussher has March 25 on a Friday, like when Adam was created on day six.

March 25, typology. Jesus was God made Man, and the God-Man dying on the Cross, on the anniversary of Adam's creation.

9:53 No, Young Earth Creationism can NOT be credited to Ussher.

All Church Fathers believed Young Earth Creationism well before Ussher.

10:16 Ussher may have represented the best scientific scholarship of his time, insofar as Kepler's tables were concerned. Or he maybe should have gone with Riccioli's.

But this does not mean all the exactitude primarily came from Kepler, it primarily came from the Bible.

It becomes very ludicrous when a certain type of "Catholics" who have obviously read Stephen Jay Gould (they tend to embrace his NOMa for one) transfer this to Church Fathers like St. Augustine or Scholastics like St. Thomas Aquinas, who were obviously less interested in using astronomy of this highly precise table type to get to the 5200 BC creation date, and more interested in using the Bible text and humbly accepting previously done calculations.

10:50 Christians US — 210 million Christians, estimation, then estimation off that, 21 million Young Earth Creationist Christians.


// A 2017 Gallup creationism survey found that 38 percent of adults in the United States held the view that "God created humans in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years" when asked for their views on the origin and development of human beings, which Gallup noted was the lowest level in 35 years.[15] It was suggested that the level of support could be lower when poll results are adjusted after comparison with other polls with questions that more specifically account for uncertainty and ambivalence.[16] Gallup found that, when asking a similar question in 2019, 40 percent of US adults held the view that "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so".[17] //

This is not limited to YEC, but includes versions of Day Age and Gap Theory, that involve a literal chronology in the Bible from Adam on.

A Day-Age creationist holding that is inconsistent even more with the science than with the Bible, but he's far from part of a presumed solid "90 % of Christians rejecting YEC" one might deduce from your wording.

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