Pronatalism, yes, but not the Collins' Way

the weird world of pronatalist families
Alice Cappelle | 8 Aug 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0okgr70Afq4

0:14 The quote happens to be pretty spot on.

Macron's pensions' reform is a foretaste.

1:56 I'm afraid if they started that late, their plans may be in trouble.

It depends more on the age of the wife than of the husband. Not just a matter of climacterium, but also hip bones.

My mother in gynaecology class learned, 13 and 30 are both bad for a first child. At 13, the hips are too small. At 30, too stiff. But 13 is actually safer.

This may no longer be statistically true, due to hospital resources spent on making first childbirths at 30 safer, but it is the natural bent of the female body.

In case you wonder, the safest for a first child is 17 to 25.

5:36 Apart from this, this action makes them murderers.

n embryos
1 implanted
n - 1 "disposed of." (Usually in the end means killed)

6:48 The irony is Mr. Collins had if any nominative determinism involved, the idea of being "servant of St. Columba" who was an Irish monk.

I wouldn't call monks anti-natalists, since they encourage laypeople who are married to have children, but it's a very different kind of pro-natalism, with IVF totally out of the question.

10:29 Saving sick people is not a greater cause than allowing people who aren't sick to have a fairly normal life.

Whether it means living without a mask or living without the threat of an organ transplant from them.

Speaking of which, Chinese Communist Party is targetting Falun Gong, probably 1 million transplants with unwilling donors since 2000.

11:55 I would definitely not consider abortion or contraception as rights or as happiness.

It may make someone happy at the moment. It's a recipe for a lonely old age.

There are other pronatalisms than the Collins' couple's. I highly prefer Mr. Vance. US Senator and candidate for Vice President.

12:17 If you want a saner pronatalism, as in religious conservatism, I recommend you take a look at the Cukierski family.

Hope you aren't so busy taking prompts from patreon you can't take one from an ordinary subscribed and non-paying interested viewer.

13:03 Let's not forget that anti-natalists have a tendency to be very overdetermining over the few children they eventually get, if any, and that some of them are running CPS in overdetermination over other people's children. Hardly a receipe for a healthy human experience of childhood.